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Loan Officer Leadership Podcast is one of the top podcasts in America with your host Steve Kyles. Each episode is jam-packed with STRATEGY and TOOLS to grow your business and leadership. Our purpose is to help you close more loans in less time. If you are ready to close more loans with fewer headaches, visit FreedomPlanningCall.com today to schedule a FREE strategy call.
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Frank Garay, top mortgage industry leader and host of The Loan Officer Breakfast Club, powered by Mortgage Marketing Animals, brings you not only the latest and greatest gizmos and gadgets that top loan officers are using, but he also frequently shares proven strategies and ways to get more referrals for your mortgage business. Learn what has been successful for those that are at the top of their game and how they've implemented them - so you can do the same as a loan officer.
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Beyond The Rate Sheet

Carl White and Jason Perkins

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Welcome to Beyond the Rate Sheet, your resource for industry insights and innovative strategies to improve your origination business. This podcast is designed to help loan officers in revolutionizing their business improving your performance in every way. Each episode features in-depth discussions on an array of topics, from marketing strategies to technology integration, regulatory compliance to customer service, and everything in between. We bring you exclusive interviews with industry lea ...
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your hosts, Steve Kyles and Frank Garay unpack the real results from our recent Call Stars 50 Blitz—nearly 4,200 outbound calls, over 1,800 conversations, 323 referrals, and 46 appointments in a single day. They break do…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White share crucial information about the upcoming State of the Mortgage Industry 2025 live Zoom session. This interactive meeting, hosted with industry expert Owen Lee, will cover essential topics such as intere…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your hosts, Steve Kyles and Frank Garay talk about the game-changing impact of having 50 real conversations a day—with people you already know and have relationships with. They unpack how community and accountability are…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Steve Kyles unpack the journey of starting a business and leveraging technology to generate leads through targeted Facebook ads. Discover how Steve and his wife leveraged their existing network of conta…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. What does it take to consistently close 20+ loans a month? In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles sits down with Brittany who shares the six things that have helped her reach 21 closings this month, including the three must-do activitie…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Owen Lee take a closer look at the significant news of Rocket Mortgage's recent acquisition of Redfin for $1.75 billion, exploring the implications of this merger for the mortgage industry. They discuss…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Not everyone hit 50 calls, but they still won the game—because momentum beats hesitation every time. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles talks about why some don’t hit their goal, but they still win, how your story inspires others, a…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White shares invaluable insights on how to think like a millionaire loan officer, emphasizing the mindset shifts that differentiate successful loan officers from those who struggle. Drawing from the principles in …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White unpacks the transformative power of making real connections through phone calls, emphasizing that sales is fundamentally a relationship business. He recaps the recent Call Stars Blitz, where loan officers ac…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Making calls isn’t enough—you need conversations that convert. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles dives into why first calls are never great, but they get better, why the right script matters, and how having a clear call to action c…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Owen Lee discuss the impact of AI on loan origination, the importance of technology in staying competitive, and how loan officers can future-proof their businesses. Key topics include: The evolving land…
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Episode 150 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode of the Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, I sit down with Steve Kyles to break down the eye-opening numbers from our recent Call Stars Blitz. The data proves that 18% of the people we have a conversation with—when properly aske…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. What happens when you commit to 50 Talk To’s in a single day? Everything changes. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles breaks down why action builds confidence, how taking massive action brings clarity, and why most loan officers are …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White cuts through the noise and delivers real, actionable strategies to help you boost your income in 2025. Carl explores five essential steps to transform your approach: 1. Cut the Time Wasters: Identify and eli…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White dives into the one simple move that can instantly increase your loan closings! Carl shares the powerful formula that top producers use consistently: More Conversations = More Closings. Discover how to set a …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Are you making the calls, having the conversations, and still not seeing the results you want? One of the biggest gaps in most loan officers’ businesses isn’t effort—it’s intentionally asking for the business and tracking the activity. T…
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Episode 149 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode of the Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, I sit down with Steve Kyles to discuss the huge benefits of community and accountability when it comes to staying disciplined and hitting your goals. If you’re trying to succeed as a lo…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles sits down with Greg Kohlhagen, who went from closing just two loans a month to eight closings this month. Greg breaks down the three key things he focused on to grow his business and maintain momen…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White dives deep into a game-changing strategy for mortgage professionals: growing and leveraging your database. Do you know that your database is your goldmine? With at least 300 contacts in your phone, social me…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with Liz Copeland, a mortgage lender based in Virginia Beach, who shares her journey from working in wealth management to establishing her own lending business focused on builders and realtors. Liz…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Are you posting on social media but not seeing the results you want? In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles sits down with Chelsea Gardner to break down how loan officers can leverage organic social media to grow their reach, build infl…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Owen Lee dive deep into the best business advice they've received throughout their careers. With over 25 years of experience in the mortgage industry, they share insights from personal mentors, industry…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White unveils the game-changing Call Stars Blitz event! If you're a loan officer looking to boost your closings and income, this episode is a must-listen. Carl shares the details of the Call Stars Blitz happening …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your hosts, Steve Kyles and Frank Garay dive deep into the art of asking for referrals strategically. They discuss the importance of having a clear desired outcome for every call and how the way you ask can significantly…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with the incredible Sue Meitner, a top-producing branch manager who led her team to close an impressive $220 million in 2023! Sue shares her journey, the secrets behind her team's success, and how …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White dives deep into a common misconception that could be sabotaging your productivity as a loan officer. Are you spending too much time on social media trying to build relationships with real estate agents throu…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Most loan officers take a "no" at face value, but what if you could turn 83% of those no’s into yes’s? In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles sits down with Allison Johnston, president of Success Mortgage Partners, who breaks down real-…
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Episode 148 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode of the Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, I sit down with Casey O'Toole, the creator of Linkybot.ai, a game-changing AI tool designed to help mortgage professionals find, engage with, and set appointments with their ideal prosp…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles sits down with Chris Haynes, a powerhouse branch manager and top producer, to break down the keys to building and leading a high-performing mortgage team. They talk about the systems, structure, an…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White dives into a crucial question: Should loan officers market to renters at apartment complexes? While understanding the market is interesting, Carl emphasizes that your marketing strategy is what truly dictate…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with VA loan expert Mr. Michael Fischer to dive deep into the world of VA loans and debunk some common misconceptions. Michael highlighted the phrase "don't FHA my VA," which refers to the tendency…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your hosts, Steve Kyles and Frank Garay discuss the importance of having a solid process in place to handle tough conversations with agents and clients. Discover the VEI system—Validate, Educate, and Instruct—that can he…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Owen Lee dive deep into the current state of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) and its implications for the mortgage industry. With rapid changes happening in Washington, we discuss the or…
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Episode 147 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode, I sit down with Steve Kyles to talk about the power of strategic scripting when asking for the business. A small tweak in your approach can make a massive difference—quadrupling your results with the same effort. We break …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles is joined by digital marketing expert Chelsea Gardner to break down how loan officers and branch managers can use targeted ads to stay in front of the right people and make prospecting easier. They…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with Tara McCafferty, the "Queen of Mortgages" in Jacksonville, Florida. After relocating from Reno, Nevada, Tara shares her journey of starting fresh in a new market where she knew no one. Tara di…
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