hzjujk

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If Sophia is actively committing incest with her son by the end of the game, then the wheels have come off of her life and all bets are off. We all seem to forget that AWAM is setting incest up as a really big point of no return. Maybe Sophia can recover if it's just Ellie, but if it's with Dylan as well then this is a woman who has abandoned any decency. In that context, sleeping with movers is "believable" because she's lost any moral compass.

I still believe that this game is likely to have very dark/sad endings on the Filthy route.
You are right, it is a low point according to valid moral standards. But the low point has actually already been reached. Through the obviously incestuous actions Sophia with her sister Patricia and even worse with her own daughter Elli. Again and again I cannot understand that a difference is made. The damage is not caused by the physical actions but by the emotional and spiritual injuries. Sophia, no, actually we players who make the decisions no longer have a moral compass. To attach that only to the actions with Dylan is unbelievable and actually even pissed off against those who play this route.
 
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let's buy a wheel and tap our forehead it's just a game ladies and gentlemen, there's no need to tense up whether it's incest, whether Sopfia is going to fuck with Dylan's husband, sister, grandfather, grandmother or neighbor, it's just a game that is supposed to make our time on the laptop more enjoyable dac rest from the hustle and bustle of everyday life :)
 

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You are right, it is a low point according to valid moral standards. But the low point has actually already been reached. Through the obviously incestuous actions Sophia with her sister Sophia and even worse with her own daughter Elli. Again and again I cannot understand that a difference is made. The damage is not caused by the physical actions but by the emotional and spiritual injuries. Sophia, no, actually we players who make the decisions no longer have a moral compass. To attach that only to the actions with Dylan is unbelievable and actually even pissed off against those who play this route.
What about Patricia? She is the predator. No one has valid moral standards. :unsure:
 
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I suggest the answer is 0. If she was real many of us would be at least a little bit in love with her. Apart from the huge breasts that the Dev has seen fit to lumber her with, she is my idea of an ideal woman with beauty, brains, musical talent, sporting abilities & a caring personality. I realise you're young but that question is just totally inappropriate.

I'm guessing you asked it out of morbid curiousity but this is not some arcane pervert society here, despite how it may sometimes look & sound. We may be playing a porn game but I'm sure the younger element here are quite capable of having a sex life without resorting to rape. As for the old gits, in which category I include myself, I think most of us picked up our sexual knowledge through practical experience, that is the experience of meeting & chatting up women, getting to know them & having some kind of connection with them, whether for one night, or 40 years.

You should have asked, if Sophia were real, how many of you would try to chat her up, get off with her, or attempt to start an affair, knowing that she was married? That way you might have got some half decent answers.
I would not have. Totally out my league.
 

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About the movers.

We know that they only come back at the end as per L&P post.
As KillJoys said multiple times this could be the (bad) end of the FW route, with the marriage falling apart etc etc.

It's strange, though, that the same truck is in the teaser, it's difficult to think of an oversight considering how he cares about the details. If it is so, or just a coincidence (e.g. an enterprise with multiple similar trucks), ok false alarm.

Now, let's consider the alternative (just for the fun of speculation).
They will come back at end, likely to move out the family. Will there be more that just moving furnitures? Will they be another if not the final piece of the FW route, with Sophia at that point of the game completely corrupted?
***If this is the scenario***, for how the game is intended so far, I still find difficult to think that something happen in a snap of a finger the day of the move, no matter how Sophia is corrupted. Yes, there was an interaction at the very beginning, but it was still in the realm of "flirting".
So, ***under these premises***, what if the movers, but let's say just Ivan to make it simple, would make the sporadic appearance throughout the FW route, without playing any major role of course, but just to make him/them witnessing Sophia's corruption, with Sophia obviously aware of their presence during her actions and, maybe, progressively enjoying the little "game" (cf the art class)? Or even with a minimum of interaction but without them being the main part of the event.

For example, let's say at some point one of the tasks is going to happen in public (e.g. another bar or similar) and again one or all of them are there to see (and being seen by Sophia). Again nothing happen with them, but it will build up the erotic tension that could be then triggered at the end during the moving.

I don't know if you were thinking something like that.
To me it would make sense having something like that, again, under the hypothesis that they won't be just moving furnitures at the end. It's just that I hope that, even when we will be well down the road of the corruption, the events will still have some reasonable build up and it won't just collapse in a dull fuckfest like other games.

And I know that in part it contradicts what L&P said, but he may not have told the "whole truth" to avoid spoiling too much ;)
I dont the mover being present at the bar requires them to be actively interacting with Sofia. They might just be having an after work drink in the background.
 

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Marginally off topic, but:
It never ceases to amaze me how often we have an engaging discussion or two going on, like which asset was used for the bar, or who will be there and what does that portend for the events that unfold, and then we get a random post telling everyone not to worry or tense up about anything, in essence questioning why anyone would form an opinion about any of this at all, let alone express that opinion.

That's kind of like telling a hobbyist they shouldn't talk with other hobbyists about their hobby. It's like someone who isn't particularly interested in WWII trivia going to a WWII trivia convention, butting into a conversation just to say they aren't interested in WWII trivia so no one else should talk about WWII trivia.

Seriously, WTF is going through people's minds when they post like that...

Marginally on-topic: It's supposedly early evening when Patricia picks up Sophia (teaser 1) but the sky is dark and all the lights in the parking lot are on (teaser 2) - continuity issue?
 

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Marginally on-topic: It's supposedly early evening when Patricia picks up Sophia (teaser 1) but the sky is dark and all the lights in the parking lot are on (teaser 2) - continuity issue?
LOL, I jokingly mentioned that in a previous post: :)
Also, the sun is still up in the sky, as you can see from the previous teaser and from the piece of sky in the up right corner of this one (and the facades of the buildings in front). How is then possible that close to the bar you can already clearly see the light of the lamps and the car like it's dark already? Is it the shadow projected by the 3000m mountain of the airport? :unsure::)
 

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Confused that some refer to any ending that has incest or does not have Liam and Sophia staying married as a dark, sad ending. By whose standards? Am I supposed to care about Liam?

Depending on our choices, if he's doing someone in the office and owes 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars so he uses Sophia as collateral at the casino, a divorce and some prison time while she escorts at the casino or becomes Don's SO might be considered a good result. They don't kill Liam which would be okay with organized crime. It's an adult game, slutty behavior should be included.
 
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hzjujk

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Confused that some refer to any ending that has incest or does not have Liam and Sophia staying married as a dark, sad ending. By whose standards? Am I supposed to care about Liam?

Depending on our choices, if he's doing someone in the office and owes 10's or 100's of thousands of dollars so he uses Sophia as collateral at the casino, a divorce and some prison time while she escorts at the casino or becomes Don's SO might be considered a good result. They don't kill Liam which would be okay with organized crime. It's an adult game, slutty behavior should be included.
It's difficult to explain. You seem to be playing the story with a certain distance. What is good!
Others are more interested in the story and its characters. Of course we know this is silly since this is a porn game, but it also makes the appeal of engaging with the people and their stories. Otherwise I can also see machines fucking, as is done in many porn films. And because we are idiotically preoccupied with the story, some endings are dark and sad for us.
 

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Marginally off topic, but:
It never ceases to amaze me how often we have an engaging discussion or two going on, like which asset was used for the bar, or who will be there and what does that portend for the events that unfold, and then we get a random post telling everyone not to worry or tense up about anything, in essence questioning why anyone would form an opinion about any of this at all, let alone express that opinion.

That's kind of like telling a hobbyist they shouldn't talk with other hobbyists about their hobby. It's like someone who isn't particularly interested in WWII trivia going to a WWII trivia convention, butting into a conversation just to say they aren't interested in WWII trivia so no one else should talk about WWII trivia.

Seriously, WTF is going through people's minds when they post like that...

Marginally on-topic: It's supposedly early evening when Patricia picks up Sophia (teaser 1) but the sky is dark and all the lights in the parking lot are on (teaser 2) - continuity issue?
The difference is WWII is a real event that is part of life. This is just a made up game dealing in fantasy. It's fine to wonder what direction the game will head into, but there's a fine line between thoughtful musings and obsessive rants.
 
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nexer

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No Ivan, :unsure: :confused:
Not a very long scene?

16 characters, I counted 10. Mean 4, Sam's band, and 2 sisters?
 
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Although not a very long scene, still a very elaborate one due to up to 16 characters for it.


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Oh man, the women really got lost. They are certainly all nice people! :LOL::ROFLMAO:
 

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Marginally off topic, but:
It never ceases to amaze me how often we have an engaging discussion or two going on, like which asset was used for the bar, or who will be there and what does that portend for the events that unfold, and then we get a random post telling everyone not to worry or tense up about anything, in essence questioning why anyone would form an opinion about any of this at all, let alone express that opinion.

That's kind of like telling a hobbyist they shouldn't talk with other hobbyists about their hobby. It's like someone who isn't particularly interested in WWII trivia going to a WWII trivia convention, butting into a conversation just to say they aren't interested in WWII trivia so no one else should talk about WWII trivia.

Seriously, WTF is going through people's minds when they post like that...

Marginally on-topic: It's supposedly early evening when Patricia picks up Sophia (teaser 1) but the sky is dark and all the lights in the parking lot are on (teaser 2) - continuity issue?
Maybe rather than the scene where Patricia and Sophia are arriving at the bar, actually it is a preview of Patricia burning rubber as she get's Sophia the heck out of there!!
:D :D
 
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