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Well, maybe, there is always a possibility .... I don't even read the manga, so yeah, its really blank me out there. I hope it will cover those thing at the future episode. |
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CeddyyBearr said: badabass said: Yes and you know, there was a corpse that looks like Nana, or i am wrong there xd .... You're definitely right, that corpse which Yuka thought was Nana trying to blend in really looked just like her, the resemblance was creepy as hell XD I thought she intentionally made one of the zombies look like her so Yuuka would believe she was there all along waiting to pounce, which she did think in the end. Zeoraimer said: CeddyyBearr said: You're definitely right, that corpse which Yuka thought was Nana trying to blend in really looked just like her, the resemblance was creepy as hell XD Maybe... Plot twist - Nana is a clone the government sends in time and time again? Hmm that's a pretty interesting theory. I also found it odd that Yuuka found tons of corpses littered around the island. Maybe this whole gather talented there and send someone to kill them was going on for a very long time. |
No, but idiocy and predictability does equate to bad |
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Yuka and a psycho guy this episode was fun what will happen in the next episode |
| I see they are trying to redeem Nana by making her second guess her mission. I don't have any problems with that on the surface but often times I see stories where they try to redeem a killer by making them lose the heart to kill. As if simply not desiring to murder alone makes the character a good person and even empathetic. I am not saying this will happen, but it is an easy trap to fall into and I see signs of it already. Another concern that I have is that they may try to make Nana into an "anti-hero" by turning all of the Talented she incidentally kills into a bad people before or during the moments of their demise as they did in this episode to retroactively put Nana on the moral high ground. I also foresee that they will have some flashback to a tragic past where the government used Nana's righteous anger toward certain Talented who gruesomely wronged her as a weapon against all Talented and the real enemy is society, authority or some other ambiguous idea which I would find ultimately unsatisfying especially if they try to give this ambiguous idea a face in the last few episodes and lie all of the narrative stakes and our feelings at the feet of this last minute twist villain who we have not come to be invested in. For the sake of offering a constructive solution I can provide a counter-offer. What if Nana is indeed wrongly motivated and deeply convinced of her ideas. So much so that a few moments of thought to herself or a moment that defied her explanations would not deconstruct her entire worldview. Perhaps the Talented are indeed a threat to the Untalented and visa versa but ultimately anyone placing Nana (or anyone else for that matter) as the frontrunner for their ideology is cruel and the task impossible. So naturally Nana defects under the pressure, not because she is a good person but because she realizes the Untalented's problems should not all fall on her shoulders. |
| Well, Nana won again in an interesting way. I thought she had made another door in the cabin door hole but that was not it. I just didn't like that ending, wanting to "justify" Nana by killing someone else. Not counting those death estimates that should be explained as they are done or maybe in the future they will show this? |
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| The pacing felt too fast in this episode ngl. But Yuka's character reveal was really surprising. A yandere biatch killed Shinji from jealousy. That explains why Shinji looks pale from the start. |
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| Nana is insanely strong at mind games, i honestly thought that she was done, but no, she even tricked her, x2 or even x3 lmao And where is Kyouya when we need him... Damn, so she wasn't his actual girlfriend, she was just a stalker who killed him, omg! Still, it seems that Nana is finally starting to realize that they are innocent, would be good if she didn't kill many more :/ Like we still have 6 episodes but i feel like they will rush the ending. |
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| Bruh this series has so much potential its insane. These first 7 episodes have been dope and nana's character is really interesting and fun to watch, but all the places they could go with this especially hearing her little comment at the end of the episode about maybe not killing whats her face if her hypothesis was wrong. Also it was nice hearing her explain her strat for beating someone to their face with that shit eating grin just flexing on them. |
| Well, that whole episode was tense as fuck. Brains > talent, if they don't have the brains to use what they have then they can never defeat Nana. Only Kyoya has the potential to best Nana. But, damn I almost felt bad for Yuka, well I am but, not as much as she turned out to be some yandere stalker. Nana almost felt bad too for Yuka, that means she still has a heart. I think she's not as heartless as she was in the beginning. Looking forward to the next episode Talented vs Talentless part 3 let's go. |
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| How tf did she manage to kidnap Shinji's corpse and get it to the Island/School if she's just a stalker? No one stopped her? Lol |
| There were so much wrong things in this episode ejecution it's amazing... Yuka could have killed her so many fkng times, and yet she didn't do it, lol. Kyouya told Nana she reminds him of his little sister that came to this island... dude, the corpse Nana used as a distraction, the one with the pink twintails, could that girl have been Kyoya's sister? idk but I don't think it was just some random thing (pls manga readers don't hurt me if we actually get to see her sister in some moment and I'm wrong). Oh, and in the very last escene, I was hopping to see something unexpected like Nanao being alive, looking at Nana kill Yuka from below the cliff, but I didn't got anything and I felt kinda sad lol. |
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MomoSinX said: CeddyyBearr said: You're definitely right, that corpse which Yuka thought was Nana trying to blend in really looked just like her, the resemblance was creepy as hell XD I thought she intentionally made one of the zombies look like her so Yuuka would believe she was there all along waiting to pounce, which she did think in the end. True, Yuka did say she predicted Nana to run to that cabin and lock herself up. So it could have all been according to Yuka's plan. So changing a corpse to look like Nana was not a bad strat, Nana outsmarted her either way. Zeoraimer said: CeddyyBearr said: You're definitely right, that corpse which Yuka thought was Nana trying to blend in really looked just like her, the resemblance was creepy as hell XD Maybe... Plot twist - Nana is a clone the government sends in time and time again? I love this theory and when I think about it, it could very well be possible. That would be quite the twist. |
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| This is it for me. I just can't stand how every character except nana is retarded. |
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| At first I thought, "this is getting more predictable and being a bit mid" but I totally didn't expect Yuka to be a stalker. Thats... creepy bro. |
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| Yuka power is so dangerous but too bad its only work during night time. Yuka should just kill Nana when Shinii pinned her but she's to stupid to believe she can win against Nana. If only Yuka thinks harder, she can win against Nana... Well of course Nana will win anyway since she's the main character. Poor Shinji to died earlier just because someone jealous.. |
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| So Yuka was just a stalker in the end huh... |
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| Necromancer got her brain eaten, and then she died, dood. Anime remains as dumb as ever, with new dumb leaps of logic and dumb stuff from the dumb talented ones, dood. Even when Nana "outsmarts" her enemy it still looks so dumb. Nana:"I got inside the cabin so you cannot enter" (dumb) Necromancer: "Welp, gotta wait until sunrise and then until tomorrow night" (ultra dumb, just burn the house, dood, if you leave her alive she could scream and someone would hear). Also dumb that she completely took her time talking when sunrise was so close, dood. Nana: Doesn't scream since she's not really trapped. Nana after: "I thought I'd get trapped in cabin, therefore I only made it seem as such so that you thought you were trapping me" (dumb since she couldn't predict if necromancer would try and burn the house down or anything, dood). Couldn't help to fast-forward the episode. The amount of new information was practically none dood. I am surprised how Nana still relies on luck to barely win to such dumb characters dood. skipped said: This is it for me. I just can't stand how every character except nana is retarded. She's also retarded dood. Being braindead is not much of a win versus lacking a brain. Nikmomo93 said: That's completely unfair. It applies to everybody. If anyone could think just a little harder Nana would have lost already to anyone besides Nanao, dood (who was unlucky enough to not be able to show us how dumb he was).Yuka power is so dangerous but too bad its only work during night time. Yuka should just kill Nana when Shinii pinned her but she's to stupid to believe she can win against Nana. If only Yuka thinks harder, she can win against Nana... Well of course Nana will win anyway since she's the main character. Poor Shinji to died earlier just because someone jealous.. |
LeviathanTheEspNov 16, 2020 12:32 PM
| Another episode as boring and senseless as every other. They really had "An isolated island with probablye thousands of corpses" and a Necromanther that can restore their bodies ar night and make em rememember their past, and said "Yeah, how about we make the necromanther a stalker and we give 0 fucks about the island" So fuckin bad Also, here we go again with the "Death recount" stupidity, A girl that only can heal: X deaths, A boy that can NULLIFY POWERS: X deaths, a guy that has night vision: X deaths (assuming that they killed him for the same dumb reason that Nana is killing people). |
AlvaritoterreosNov 16, 2020 4:56 PM
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| Well that was a creepy backstory, wasn't expecting Yuka to kill Shinji. This episode was really good, Nana explaining all the plot holes on Yuka stories was the best part but I wonder how is Nana gonna cover the body since it's gonna be too obvious for Kyouya and gonna start suspecting her again. |
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| This episode just highlights one glaring issue I have with this show as a whole, which is its inability to actually validate the deaths of the characters that Nana is murdering. We're on episode 7 and this is the *only* time I can confidently say I'm actually glad Nana killed someone this time. Each student up until now has been kind of just a normal person, but with superpowers. Unless you wanna count the camera dude for being skeevy and a perv, literally every single death up until now hasn't really been deserved. And I don't mean that in a plot-driven kind of way. The plot definitely has given these characters a reason to die, but the actions, writing, and motivations of the characters haven't actually convinced me that the plot gives a good enough reason. Like yeah, sure, Nana has to kill them all because the secret shadowy government said so, but does that mean that I'm convinced that's a good enough reason for the main character to go through with it? No. Maybe if Nana were a heartless murdering unempathetic psychopath (which she really comes off as) I don't believe she *is* that type of person, because she seems to be doing what she's doing out of some slight sense of justice, that by murdering these student's she's saving the lives of millions of people. If nana *were* an evil psychopath who cared nothing for the people she works for, kills, and "protects" I could easily go "well they may not deserve it, but there's a good enough reason for it happening" (that reason being Nana's character is uncaring about the lives and well being of people different than her). Maybe if Nana had some other motivation outside of "The government told me to do it" I'd be totally on board with her doing this, and even rooting for her. Another way they could get me to root for Nana, without even having to do much writing for her part, is to just make the students she's targeting assholes. If this series started off with us learning about Nanao more, and finding out about him doing some sort of messed up stuff with his powers, it'd make that number she gets on her phone valid in the eyes of the audience. I'd go "ah yes, that explains why Nanao had such a high potential kill rate/why he's a danger to society." In this episode, they actually did a pretty good job of showing how someone like a necromancer could have a kill count that high, and her actions and backstory were so awful I actually ended up rooting for Nana *just a little bit*. If they continue this trend with the rest of the students, then this show will...well it won't get better, since there are other more glaring issues with it, but it'd go from an "Unbearable watch" to a "Tolerable watch" Other than that, this show is still trying to act like its Death Note or Liar Game with its "100 I.Q Monologues and tricks" but this has to be the dumbest death ever, simply because it was so drawn out all because Nana wanted to test some girls power. Dumb Shit that makes me mad that happened this episode: 1. The Necromancer spent way too goddamned long swooning about her boyfriend to Nana that she just decided to *not* kill her for some reason, and even let her go so that Nana could "read her dead boyfriend's mind". 2. The Necromancer is *shocked* to discover that the person who just revealed they murdered a bunch of people and lied about it is a huge fucking liar and *didn't* read her dead boyfriend's mind. 3. Nana lies about being able to hear the voices of dead spirits and well...I guess everyone just believes her now. 4. Nana throws the "You aren't actually strong the others would want to test your power" thing at the Necromancer, which is infuriating because that's *all* anyone needs to do with Nana to find out she's a fraud and a liar, but nobody ever decides to do that for some reason. If you've been paying attention, all the times she "reads" the minds of her classmates, she always points out things that the *classmates* have been gossiping about. Like how she pointed out the Ice dude had a girlfriend (Everyone knows he cheats on his girlfriend, it's literally a gag in the show) 5. This island they're on is fucking *littered* with dead bodies and nobody seems to give a shit I guess. Or even seems to have found them. Not even the one student who thinks there is a killer among them. He totally hasn't decided to scout the farther surrounding area just to make sure there are no other dead students hidden there? Also, THE ISLAND IS LITTERED WITH DEAD BODIES, HOW DOES THIS SCHOOL KEEP ITS GODDAMNED DOORS OPEN WITH SO MANY DEAD KIDS. 6.Was the thing with the shed really the *only* way Nana could've figured the thing with the zombies out? The Necromancer is a dumbass who just decided to blab about how her powers work to an assassin trying to kill her, Nana really only had to just continue talking and egging her on for her to go "Ah yes, my powers one weakness is the sun!" and that'd have been the end of the episode. Also, Nana is smart enough to deduce that this girl was a crazy stalker from her odd story about how she and her "boyfriend" met, but not smart enough to just connect the dots and go "the zombies only work during the day". 7. The Necromancer just continues to chase after Nana even though the sun is coming up, and now there's probably like 12 dead bodies in one place. They're rotted as well, how did nobody smell these corpses? Dead bodies reek you'd be able to smell them from like miles away with that many in one place?? |
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LeviathanTheEsp said: Necromancer got her brain eaten, and then she died, dood. Anime remains as dumb as ever, with new dumb leaps of logic and dumb stuff from the dumb talented ones, dood. Even when Nana "outsmarts" her enemy it still looks so dumb. Nana:"I got inside the cabin so you cannot enter" (dumb) Necromancer: "Welp, gotta wait until sunrise and then until tomorrow night" (ultra dumb, just burn the house, dood, if you leave her alive she could scream and someone would hear). Also dumb that she completely took her time talking when sunrise was so close, dood. Nana: Doesn't scream since she's not really trapped. Nana after: "I thought I'd get trapped in cabin, therefore I only made it seem as such so that you thought you were trapping me" (dumb since she couldn't predict if necromancer would try and burn the house down or anything, dood). Couldn't help to fast-forward the episode. The amount of new information was practically none dood. I am surprised how Nana still relies on luck to barely win to such dumb characters dood. skipped said: This is it for me. I just can't stand how every character except nana is retarded. She's also retarded dood. Being braindead is not much of a win versus lacking a brain. Nikmomo93 said: That's completely unfair. It applies to everybody. If anyone could think just a little harder Nana would have lost already to anyone besides Nanao, dood (who was unlucky enough to not be able to show us how dumb he was).Yuka power is so dangerous but too bad its only work during night time. Yuka should just kill Nana when Shinii pinned her but she's to stupid to believe she can win against Nana. If only Yuka thinks harder, she can win against Nana... Well of course Nana will win anyway since she's the main character. Poor Shinji to died earlier just because someone jealous.. Yes it's unfair but all main character always get defend by plot armor LeviathanTheEsp said: Necromancer got her brain eaten, and then she died, dood. Anime remains as dumb as ever, with new dumb leaps of logic and dumb stuff from the dumb talented ones, dood. Even when Nana "outsmarts" her enemy it still looks so dumb. Nana:"I got inside the cabin so you cannot enter" (dumb) Necromancer: "Welp, gotta wait until sunrise and then until tomorrow night" (ultra dumb, just burn the house, dood, if you leave her alive she could scream and someone would hear). Also dumb that she completely took her time talking when sunrise was so close, dood. Nana: Doesn't scream since she's not really trapped. Nana after: "I thought I'd get trapped in cabin, therefore I only made it seem as such so that you thought you were trapping me" (dumb since she couldn't predict if necromancer would try and burn the house down or anything, dood). Couldn't help to fast-forward the episode. The amount of new information was practically none dood. I am surprised how Nana still relies on luck to barely win to such dumb characters dood. skipped said: This is it for me. I just can't stand how every character except nana is retarded. She's also retarded dood. Being braindead is not much of a win versus lacking a brain. Nikmomo93 said: That's completely unfair. It applies to everybody. If anyone could think just a little harder Nana would have lost already to anyone besides Nanao, dood (who was unlucky enough to not be able to show us how dumb he was).Yuka power is so dangerous but too bad its only work during night time. Yuka should just kill Nana when Shinii pinned her but she's to stupid to believe she can win against Nana. If only Yuka thinks harder, she can win against Nana... Well of course Nana will win anyway since she's the main character. Poor Shinji to died earlier just because someone jealous.. Yes, it's unfair but Nana got the plot armor. She will win until the writer said so🤣 It is annoying when everyone is so stupid in that island. The plot will get better if someone else helping killing those students rather than letting Nana alone doing it, I guess... |
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Marathoning 7 episodes today and I was like ...... Everything is so dumb; the writing, the plot, the characters. I'm still trying my hardest to find the positive, I guess the redeemable points in this series is I'm still curious about the mystery of the island and some backstory from the characters are not as sweet as they told and had creepy facts behind it. |
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| To be honest it's been several episodes that I'm thinking that this anime characters are just incredibly dumb. The author wants to create tension by putting Nana in bad situations but the whole process is wasted because of the fact that the characters are simply stupid. It's like watching an Among Us party full of 4-years old players with one adult as impostor. It's getting more and more boring and I am at a state when I don't even know if I'll be able to get interested enough to get through the ending of this season. It had potential but it just looks like the author didn't knew how to develop his story and had to protect Nana with a plot armor. What a disappointment. |
Yuya-NoboruNov 17, 2020 6:06 AM
Plot armor dood? You don't need plot armor when you're against a bunch of dumbasses dummies dood. Unless you're dummy Nana, in such case you do need plot armor dood. No way dood. You need a smart person in each side dood, otherwise it will be overkill dood. Yuya-Noboru said: It's like watching an Among Us party full of 4-years old players with one adult as impostor. That's actually a nice comparison dood. When I play Amoonguss I like to misdirect the other crewmates to believe, first, that some other crewmate is the impostor, and then to believe I am the impostor (when I'm not) dood. It's actually really easy dood. You know you're dealing with kids when everyone believes you and it's only the third time you frame an innocent one they actually start to suspect you dood. The difference being... in Amoonguss you cannot show true proof of what you say. Everything is in the testimonies. In an anime (or any kind of literature) with no such restrictions, that kind of trustiness shouldn't exist. But it's even worse. Even in amoonguss most of the time I get expelled after making them expel an innocent crewmate. Dood. |
LeviathanTheEspNov 17, 2020 5:14 PM
| The revelation that Yuka was just a stalker yandere is disappointing. I think there is a pretty good sense of moral ambiguity in the show (The Talented are just teenagers, but with abilities we can reasonably believe would kill several hundred thousand people, and so Nana has legitimate reason to kill them, but she is still ultimately killing innocent teenagers). But finding out Yuka was not only lying, but is who actually killed Shinji, strips any of that moral ambiguity from her death, and the dialogue and Nana holding on to the test scrap after even acknowledges that. But maybe it is a set up for things to come instead. |
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| She deserved to die, she was just a murderer who lost her mind for a boy. so pathetic. |
To be honest it's been several episodes that I'm thinking that this anime characters are just incredibly dumb. The author wants to create tension by putting Nana in bad situations but the whole process is wasted because of the fact that the characters are simply stupid. It's like watching an Among Us party full of 4-years old players with one adult as impostor. It's getting more and more boring and I am at a state when I don't even know if I'll be able to get interested enough to get through the ending of this season. It had potential but it just looks like the author didn't knew how to develop his story and had to protect Nana with a plot armor. What a disappointment. these silly characters deserve to die for being idiots, in others animes are idiots but the story want you to thinks they are heroes. The power makes you arrogant. |
| i have some theories after watching this episode but first im gonna speak out my opinion about what the show is lacking right now. in 2020 with that kind of animation, i feel like it's too rough. but well, if it's low budget, it can't be helped. and last, they talk too much or maybe should i say, the show need more background sound. when they talked to each other in a long time with no sound at the background, it feels empty or underwhelming imo. and i just realize it by reading some of the post above, when i watch the series, it somehow felt boring at some point, and i finally know what it is. The killing scenario isn't that impressive imo. it didn't give me that much thrill aside when the dud who can see the future show the picture of nana pushing nanao to his death. or when one dud can go back to the past, when someone can control the ded, but it actually the girl, or when the corpse look like nana. that shock me. yes nana is smart, imo. but i feel like the talented is too dumb either. and the joke, aren't working for me. that are the minus to me for this series imo. im more interested in the concept of the story. here's the theories. it's kinda long so i put spoiler on it. tbh, if that yandere girls wasn't yandere and killed him i would seriously hate Nana, because i felt so bad for here before about her backstory with her crush, almost became one of my favorite character actually, but when her other side came out, motherf*ck*r caught me off guard. i think the reason why some people think the character is too dumb and nana has a plot armor is because that some of us still see her as the villain. she is the bad guy. some of us doesn't like it when the villain keep wining especially for 7 episode long including me. it's different than overlord tho and i dont know the difference. what keep me watching the series however is the concept of the story. |
YizelTroNov 18, 2020 12:46 PM
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| im really irritated with this show but this episode is decent since it was well-explained, tho ofc the side characters are just purely dumb. |
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DannyTheDonkey said: Marathoning 7 episodes today and I was like ...... Everything is so dumb; the writing, the plot, the characters. I'm still trying my hardest to find the positive, I guess the redeemable points in this series is I'm still curious about the mystery of the island and some backstory from the characters are not as sweet as they told and had creepy facts behind it. Yeah i did the same right now, and i feel the same. The plot is overly stupid, but i'm okay with that in anime IF the story can entertain me. Well, since the 5th episode this is trying to make us believe that Nana is an anti-hero, that she is one of Amazon Prime's "The Boys" (lol) who is legit killing scum Supes. I've already seem too much anime to know where it is going to: - Nana realizes that the Talented are not all evil and her organization is not all right. - Onodera realizes what is happening in the Island, but don't see Nana as an enemy. - Uprising aggainst the system? Runaway from the Island? - And SURE, the necessary plot twist that the one behind the Human "talentless" organization... is the worst Talented. No it is is not spoiler, i have no ideia about the source material, but it just seems too predictable. |
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| People make mistakes. People always make mistakes. People learn from their mistakes but sometimes they don't. I'd say most of the time because they keep repeating the same mistake over and over. It affects both talented and talentless. You shouldn't expect them to do the right thing at the right time. Especially if they're crazy in the head. |
| An excellent end.It really shocked me that Sasaki led to Shinji's real death.I considered them as an exemplary couple before.However,it's just a unrequited love...Feel sad for both of them. Some points which still need improving.Always we have a stricter request to anime which have a subject of wit competition.Sometimes if it has a unsatisfactory plot ,people will make more criticisms to it because we think our IQ has been humiliated.Opposite characters are important in this kind of anime.Only when their IQ are equal to main characters ,people can enjoy the plots fully and delightly.But here Nana has used only simple tricks to fool others.Maybe the way of Nana getting out the cabin was difficult to think of but after the result was exposed it was just a simple cover-up.It's the fourth time that Nana killed her classmate.Every dead student was with Nana at the end of his life.Everyone has the evidence to suspect Nana.Please don't be throughout stuck in searching for her motivation of killing.In another word,don't use the question of Nana's motivation to get rid of her suspicion any more. |
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| Yuka was a stalker. Lol But the show still hasn't convinced me enough to like Nana. |
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| Nana you sly intelligent bastard! i wonder how long you could survive there... 5/5. |
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| So, Shinji wasn't even her bf...... huh. Well, stalker like Yandere( same thing 🤣 ) dealt with. Nana makes another win. |
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| Well shit. I was really loving the tragic romance between Shinji and Yuuka... and now you're telling me it was all a lie?! After the reveal that Yuuka was a stalker who Shinji hated and then reanimated his body so she could live out her sick fantasies I'm fucking glad that Nana got that bitch! |
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| This show is just stupid now. |
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